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‘IAS’ Interview of Swarochish Somavanshi IAS Rank 49

UPSC BOARD INTERVIEW of Swarochish Somavanshi IAS Rank 49


Entering The Dragon-2 : My Second ‘IAS’ Interview
by My Experiments With UPSC on Friday, 13 July 2012 at 09:03 ·
Date- 13th April 2011
Session- Afternoon
Attire- Grey colored suit, Black Shoes, Hanuman Chalisa in my pocket.
Chairman- Prof. Chalam’s Board.
Nervous-o-meter Reading- Hot but not as volcanic as in earlier interview of my first attempt.
I was third or fourth to be interviewed. It was very good to meet Sh Ravindra Kumar and Sh Saurabh Singh. We were waiting for the announcement for the board’s name. I was aware of the historical importance of 13th April; Jallianwala Bagh Massacre! I had heard it too- “History repeats itself”. We were praying that two boards should not be allotted- KK Paul’s and Prof Chalam’s. A peon came and said it was Prof Chalam’s board. I knew the history was going to be repeated. Amusingly enough Ravindra ji started finding all sorts of qualities in Prof sahib. He declared Prof to be the most educated and qualified among the UPSC members. It was a good gimmick or mental conditioning whatever you may call it. It really worked and I also started praising Prof Chalam for all the good things he had done and was going to do in near future.


I must explicitly acknowledge that my newly stitched suit boosted a lot of confidence, only I was looking like an “Officer” among the “Babus”. In a mock interview I was advised to wear a suit to look like an “Officer”, as I was already in IRTS!
Then a typical Babu came in the hall, wished us all the luck. Strange! He was the Secretary to the UPSC, an IAS; and of course, he was not wearing any “suit”. :(

I was to be interviewed after Ravindra ji. He came out and I went in. Somehow the door was shut again so I asked for permission.
I – May I come in sir?
Chairman- The train has already arrived! (Smiles). What do you people do when the train arrives? (saying this the chairman looked into my eyes)
I – We unload sir.

Chairman- do you unload the passengers also? (With a bigger smile)
I – No sir, we deport them. (I too tried my best to smile back not so big though)
Chairman- So which batch is it in IRTS?
I – Sir I am in 2009 exam batch of IRTS.

Chairman- Hmm… so which news paper do you read?
(I wanted to tell the truth that I hardly and painfully read any, still I decided to choose to be a good boy and went with the most prestigious one to show off myself as a serious candidate)
I – Sir, I read The Hindu.

Chairman- Have you heard of Julian Assange?
I – Sir, he is the editor of the Wikileaks, and some even call him to be the owner of it.
Chairman- Don’t you think he should be given more stringent punishment as he has de-stabilized not only the internal affairs of the USA but also its relations with the other Nations?
I – Sir there has been no incident of violence or direct consequence which can be said to be inciting any hate fuelling incident. I think everyone including wikileaks should have the freedom to express, at the same time they should own the responsibility of the information and…

Chairman- But the parliaments have the opposite view, you see…
(I did not understand the rationale behind the question and tried to defend my point following the line of Article 19 of Indian Constitution. Chairman patiently heard me, he was going through some papers simultaneously, may be that was my bio-data, I don’t know…)
Chairman- So you are a Computer Engineer? What do the Computer Engineers do? er… I mean what is the thing they have built for nation? Name any Computer Engineer who has built a “single chip” for the country…
(I never knew Prof Chalam was so upset with the Computer Engineers, he was even more upset than I was. The question was more than a sarcasm and as I saw in his eyes, he was still waiting for my answer, I tried to think some good answer, as I clearly did not have any such name of any Computer Engineer)
I – Sir I don’t have a particular name as such but a number of Computer Engineers are working hard in our Public Sector Institutions. For example WE have built the whole supercomputer, PARAM, at C-DAC, Pune. But we don’t publicize much it in that way…

(The tone was somewhat, “humne poora super computer bana diya aur aap ek chip ki baat kar rahe hain!”)
Chairman- So you want to say that its mainly in public sector and the govt. is not as publicity oriented. Hmmm…(without waiting for my response)
Chairman- How would you use your knowledge of Computers in IRTS?
(Gotcha! I knew you people will ask this hypothetical question! I had prepared the answer and started chanting the Ramayan )
I – Sir, being an engineer I am always at in a better position to understand and appreciate the technology. I can improvise and innovate. The technologies such as Anti Collision Device and GPS can be well implemented at large.
(I kept on elaborating it long enough. At that time I had number of facts and data to supplement my answer, some of them I used there.

By now I was feeling a bit comfortable as till now the game was going as planned earlier. Now the chairman almost ordered the first member, M1 to ask questions, and concentrated on his tea)
M1- you have written your hobby as Photography, which camera do you have?
I – Sir, its Nikon F 55.
M1- what does SLR means in a camera, what is an SLR camera?
I – Sir its Single Lens Reflex Camera, in which we directly look through the lens to shoot the object…
(and I elaborated which I have forgotten by now )
M1- What do you write? I mean what do you mean by Creative Writing?
I – Sir, I write lots of things- poems, stories and street plays. Creative means, in my stories, even objects speak and interact. Sir I have written a story named Sikka in which…
M1- ok ok..

(seeing his distasteful face I realized he was not interested in my details actually, he expected a short answer. I had failed to judge this. Now I had a cue to cut short my answers. Point was taken well.)
M1- What changes the Kanpur city is witnessing these days?
I – Sir, earlier it was known for leather industry, now it’s moving towards Plastic industry.
(A one liner answer sir!)
M1- Is the Ganges pure there?
I – Not as earlier sir.
(A half liner answer sir!)
M1- ok

(He said and completed the formality of asking questions, then he looked towards M2. Actually he could not conceal his sigh of relief of getting rid of me, I think I successfully did so on my part with a smile. He reciprocated. M2 started.)
M2- So Mr Somvanshi what is the difference between Electrical and Electronics branches of engineering?
(I could not understand the logic behind the question as I belonged to neither of the branch)
Chairman intervened to lighten the environment, saying, “Electronics me JHATKA kam lagta hai”- in hindi- and all started to laugh.
(I smiled and waited till they finish the laughter challenge)
I – Sir, in electronics we deal with lesser amount of current, say millli ampere, and in case of Electrical it’s the order of amperes… apart from the Jhatka factor.

M2- What do you understand by Delegated Legislation?
I started with, sir it’s the authority given to the executive arm of the state to legislate in the matters needed to smoothen the task of administration. (words were different but the meaning was same)
M2- Which all Delegated Legislations will be null and void?
(now I started feeling butterflies in my stomach as I did not have sound knowledge of Public Administration, just read it for 3-4 months and could not revise many of the topics after mains, and he was getting into more and more details. Fingers were crossed, all the 20 fingers! Jai mata di!)
I – Sir I don’t know it precisely, can I guess it?
M2- OK
(and he looked to be Gurunanak Dev-like-Gentle-and Compassionate in his rin-white-beard, with a bright halo)

I – Sir, the legislations which are contrary to the Fundamental Rights.
-Hmm
-Sir, if any explicit prohibitions are laid down in the act itself.
-And??
-Sir, all the legislations which are outside of the purview of parent legislation or contrary to its spirit itself.
-Hmm and…
-Sir, any delegated legislation should not be contrary to the Constitution of the country.
-and? (started smiling)
I kept on thinking but could not get more.
-Sorry sir that’s it.
M2- its ok then he added one more point, which I can’t recall right now…
(I liked M2 the most; he was smiling throughout and apparently encouraging me. I strongly feel, in every board, there is a good member, a normal human being, to keep you alive among the brutal bullets firing all around)
M2- What are the problems of Panchayati Raj Institutions?
(this question was asked in my earlier interview also, so I answered it on the similar lines as earlier one, somewhat better this time due to my newly picked optional, Public Administration)
M2- What is the meaning of your name- Swarochish?
(Chairman once again intervened, jokingly, “Is it related to Swarovski?”)
I – No sir, Swarochish means, Self Enlightened...
( mugged up elaboration follows)

I expected the question in the beginning itself, it came so late!
Then the ball was in lady member M3’s court)
M3- How does a Loco Pilot get training?
(It was an irrelevant question. An IRTS officer is no way concerned with loco pilots’ training, that too I was undergoing training myself! Still I tried to answer it on the basis of a demo that was shown to us at our academy by two scientists of RDSO)
Then a lot of technical terms came in between eg- Depth Perception, Aspects Of Signals etc…
She was very insistent on the details with which I was feeling uneasy)

M3- What is Medical Tourism? Which countries are major source for such tourists?
I answered what I could. Not so confidently. Tried to relate it to the Rural_eco_tourism to show that I think about the rural areas also.
(Chairman intervened again, passing a comment that people from Kazakhstan came to India and Saved lots of money and went back… It was a personal opinion and I was not asked to comment on it, per se, so I decided to play safe and kept silent on it.

Here I want to append something. Here and there in interview some of the remarks are passed by the board, instantaneously or sometimes even knowingly, the answers to which do not contribute to any logical conclusion; try to avoid to pass a comment on such comments, unless until you are required and asked to express your opinion. I mean no tit-for-tat-attitude will do the good to anybody in the room. Furthermore sometimes you have to stick to your answer even the board tries to check your patience which all of us preparing for civils have in plenty. We will see it in a subsequent question regarding Harcourt Butler.)

M3- What is Jeevan Vidya?
I – I don’t know ma’am.
M3- Are you sure? One Professor from HBTI, your college is related to it!
I – I am sorry, I don’t know about it ma’am. I will certainly check it.
M3- Tell me something about the industrial problems of Kanpur?
I – I had prepared it before hand. I answered it on the basis of closure of industries, migration and power shortage etc.
M3- good!
(I was very happy hearing this. The lady was very encouraging)

(Now the last member was to play his role)
M4- Who was Harcourt Butler?
I – He was the first governor of United Province, sir.
M4- Are you sure?
I – yes sir.
M4- I think he was the Lt. Governor? What do you say?
I – No sir, I am quite sure. I had read it on the foundation stone of our college (HBTI) laid down by Harcourt Butler himself.
M4- I don’t think so. I think he was the Lt Governor… when was the post of Lt Governor abolished?

(This tail part of the question he asked to not less than the Chairman!!!
He was adamant, and looked towards chairman for his approval. Chairman was as calm as hill. I understood the mind game well. Fairly strongly I was looking to his face and tried my best to show that I would not argue but I was sure and I had shown the foundation stone of the college itself, to him.
Note it please! Here, there is no scope to retreat. It’s a factual question, that too about your College so you have to be sure and more importantly you should appear to be sure. M4 remained dissatisfied. I had no option so did not speak further )

M4- Oh! You have Pali literature also.
(He was trying to catch me by neck. Saying this he again looked to Chairman and told via eyes he is not only an computer engineer but he has Pali also! Do do nishaniyan of shortcut! It was a tough moment, to smile. I did not know for how long I had to wait for the next question)
M4- So what’s the difference between Pali and Sanskrit?
I had studied it well. Explained.
M4- I don’t think these are the main differences…
I – Sir, as far as my knowledge goes… I know some more but I think these are the main differences… (smile)

(M4 smiles sarcastically and looked towards the Chairman, as if he was saying, “Look I have caught him, he is not a PhD in Pali!” Chairman was dead still. I sensed that perhaps the chairman was also thinking for M4 similarly, to get a knife and… :(

M4- Tell me one shloka in Pali in which all these differences come.
It was easy as every GATHA (shloka) in pali has it. So I replied.
(he was not happy at all. Did not acknowledge me. Now the room was filled with negativity, I was searching for a knife eagerly)
M4- What do you understand by Theory X?

(I was amazed by his sharp U-turn to Public Administration. He has blasted my info about my college, crushed my Unfathomable Knowledge of Pali and now he will ask about Public Administration!!! For the first time in my life I felt like Draupadi, I tried to recall Krishn Ji)

I explained it. Did not forget to attach the name of Mc Gregor to show off.
Then he asked about theory Y and Z. I tried my best to recall the name of William Ouchi to substantiate theory Z, but of no avail.
(I thought I fared well, still M4 was proving me as flop as MI-4! Still I was firm to march on in front of the General Dyre )
M4- What are the characteristics of Bureaucracy?
I – I started Hierarchy, written records, impersonal attachment, separation of official and personal property, rule bound attitude, rationality and efficiency…
(I don’t remember all I spoke but he remained perfectly aloof, all eligible to be killed by the rusted knife)

Chairman- its OK Mr Somvanshi, your interview is over. Thank you.
I – thank you sir

I wanted to sit there to clear the air, that I was the best candidate they were searching for, that M4 was jealous of my Suit, that Harcourt Butler actually was the Governor, that I knew Pali, that my Gatha was appropriate and I was the Chhora fir Kaahe nagar bhar me dhindhora!!....

I tried to say all this by my eyes. I looked towards Chairman and once again said ’’Thank YOU sir!” but I think the Chairman heard it right ”PLEASE SIR!!!”

I walked out of the room. Again the time just slipped by. Interview lasted for around 35 minutes. I did not get “the feel” that I had got last time. I thought the interview to be a bit of middle-of-the-road types. Prof Chalam was nice but that did not guarantee good marks. I thought I would be getting around 150- 170. That’s it.

Marks Obtained- 189/ 300 (so 9 marks more than last year; obviously, for wearing a suit)

PS: I have tried to describe the “Mental Game”, played that day as I feel it’s far more important to describe the candidate’s actual mental condition apart from the questions asked. Personality Test is not a question answer session/ cross examination, and that was the core assumption I made while choosing the writing style here.

About the title-
The dragon, the only mythical creature among the 12 animals of the Chinese zodiac, is regarded as a symbol of might and intelligence. Boys born in the year of the dragon, especially, are said to be destined to be successful. So was I desired to get a birth in the Prestigious Civil Services of India.
Thanks, with best wishes, to the sacred journey to our much awaited dream ie IAS.

With best wishes,
Swarochish Somavanshi
AIR-49 (CSE 2011)
AIR-575 (CSE 2009)

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IAS’ Interview of Narayana Bharat Gupta IAS Rank 17


Description: (UPSC Board Interview)
Name: Narayana Bharat Gupta
Civils Rank: 17
Place: Gutti, Anantapur
Optional: Public Administration and Anthropology

Panel chairman: Nirbhay Sharma 
Four other members were m1, m2, m3, m4 Entering into the room after all the wishing and seating...

NS: okay Narayana Bharath Gupta... so you are a first division candidate. And
you completed your MBBS from Kurnool Medical College. How was your entry into
this college? Did you pay money or get selected through a common entrance
test?
It’s through a common entrance test sir.

How much did you have to pay?
Only ten thousand per annum sir.


So you have kept your hobbies as cooking Andhra and Karnataka food. What food do you cook? Something special?
Pesarattu and bisibelebath.

Sounds interesting… I never heard of such things over here. Why don’t you
start an eatery in Delhi?
Sorry sir. But here there is a lot of competition and it’s difficult to overcome that sir.

Are you afraid of competition?
It’s not like that sir. It’s more a hobby rather than a profession.

What did you do after finishing your Degree?
Sir got my degree in February only sir. I had no time after that sir.

Ok being a doctor and having a good prospect of joining a post graduate seat
and earning cool money. Why did you join this field? Can you explain and
convince me?
I fumble a little. I ask permission to drink water. They console me tell me to drink water.
Joke a little.
After completing my final year I was left with three choices sir.
1.   To join post graduate course and start a clinic of my own in an urban area and
services limited to a particular section of people.
2.   Be satisfied with my MBBS and join a PHC where there are no facilities. No
gloves, no syringes, no medicines.
3.   To join civil services.
My answer is interrupted in the middle without completing.

What changes have taken place in the district administration and tell
them briefly.
Panchayati raj system in India has been implemented after the 73 and 74 amendment
act sir. It facilitates a three tier administration in the district level. Gram sabha,
panchayat samiti and the zilla parishad.

What do you mean by gram sabha?
It’s a term used for all the legible voters in the village.

What are their functions?
They elect the members of the panchayati and the sarpanch.

How is the sarpanch elected?
He is either directly elected or nominated from amongst the members themselves.

M1: How can there be two systems? Only one should be there...
Me: Sorry sir. I mistook, the sarpanch is directly elected by the people.

What about the next level?
Panchayat samiti is the next level sir. It covers for approximately 15-20 villages.

What about the next one?
Zilla parishad sir.

Who is the head?
Zilla parishad chairman sir, he is an elected member sir.

How is administration carried out?
The district collector is head of the executive part of the ZP.

How is the functioning done?
The executive prepares the plan. Submits it to the ZP and then does the work sir.

Tell me about the distribution of funds from the district level to the grass root
levels?
Sorry sir. I am not aware of it.

Tell me about the women reservation in panchayati raj.
There is one third reservation for women in the system sir, which has been recently
increased to fifty percent.

What about SC and ST?
There is representation in proportion to the population for the SC and ST Sir.

Tell me about the total reservation.

Approximately 20 percent for SC and ST combined and female reservation is reservation
within reservation.

Don’t you play any games?

Sorry sir. I don’t. But I used to play kabaddi.

Don’t you think they are necessary?

But in view of the current intermediate education....< answer is interrupted>

Member 2 takes over!

So you like cooking... your old CM NTR told that he loved Ulava charu. Can you
tell me how to cook it?
I tell a little about it. He asks...

How much time does it take to cook...?

Approximately half an hour sir.

I think it takes 7-8 hrs.
May be sir. Now days all the instant items are available sir. They may do within a short
span of time.


Can you name one chief minister who rose from the level of an industrial
worker?
Madhu koda.

From Andhra Pradesh?
No idea sir.

It’s Anjaiah. Have you heard of him?
Yes sir.

What’s your opinion about your Indian budget this year...?

It’s a very good budget sir. In the current view of global recession and keeping the
inflation under control all the measures have been taken.

More...
The social sector spending has been doubled sir.

What’s the current social sector spending?

9 percent sir.

No I think your number is far from the real one....
Sorry sir, I have no idea then.

What is India GDP?
1.4 trillion dollars sir.

How much does one trillion dollar mean?
Approximately fifty lakh crores sir.

What’s the share of India in the foreign trade?
1.5 percent sir.

Yes you are little near. But it does not matter.
Have you heard about European Union? Tell me about it.
It’s a union of 27 countries. They form a custom union and offer free movement of
people across the boundaries.

Are you talking about schengen visa?
Yes sir.

But UK does not come under it.
Yes sir. But most of the countries come under it sir.

What about Euro?
It’s a common currency for most of the EU countries. It’s touted to emerge as a
competitor for the dollar sir. Approximately 40 percent of the world trade is carried out
in the Euro sir.

What is the duration of 11th five year plan?
Up to 2012 sir.

Do you know the allocation for various sectors?
No sir...

Now member 2 takes over:

Dr. Bharath Gupta. Is it possible for someone to have a title doctor even
without completing MBBS?
Yes sir. Anyone who has completed PhD can have a doctorate sir. Even they may be
conferred honorary. someone told me a small difference between
the MBBS doctor and the other one sir. MBBS one is Dr. While the PhD one is DR.
All of them laugh... no no... Nothing is like that.

Dr. NTR is given... Was he a doctor?
No sir. He was conferred honorary doctorate by the Andhra University sir.

Are doctorates recognised?
Yes sir.

I think no.

Then I don’t know correctly sir.

Suppose a patient comes to the emergency room with chest pain and your
junior doctor suspects it as cardiac pains even though its gastric pain. What will
you do?
I tell all the treatment strategy of angina and MI.

Suppose your junior has done the mistake of diagnosing the Gastric problem as
MI. What will you do?
He has done no mistake to condemn sir. Its basic dictum that anyone with severe
symptoms of chest pain has to be looked for the anginal pain and the other entire
possibilities next sir.

Suppose he has done another mistake?

I will train him sir. And if it’s a grave mistake putting danger to the lives of another. I
will take the matter to the higher ups and see that he is reprimanded for the same.

Is there any Supreme Court ruling in this regard?
Yes sir. Francis D Souza from Nunavut hospital case regarding this.
NTR from your state. He does not act very well. Why you think was much hit?
Sir he has a charisma and required charm sir. Whenever he donned the role of Lord
Krishna or Rama people took him to be a god sir. Hence he was a very big hit sir.

Had Rajanikanth been similarly hit in your state?

No sir.

I say food is culture specific... what do you say...
I give him explanation regarding the culture, cuisine, and local availability and give
sufficient examples.

Do you say cuisine and climate are related?
Yes sir. Indirectly they may be related due to the food production affected by the
climate. And secondly people living in different climates may be having different food
needs.

Why do Andhra people consume more curds rather than west Bengal? Do you
give any explanation?
May there is lot of buffaloes in Andhra. Other than that I can’t find any relation sir.

Are 73rd and 74th amendment act same?
No sir they are different. One related to the panchayat and the other to the municipality.

What is the one distinct feature of municipality plan?

He gives me a clue regarding the planning. I tell DPC. He then positively corrects my
mistake.

Member 3:
What do you know about green revolution?

I explain him.

What are the components of green revolution? Tell me other types of
revolutions. Which decade was this implemented?
I answer all of them.

Name the scientist connected with this revolution from India.
Swami Nathan.

Where is he now?
He is currently in Tamil Nadu. Having his own research institute and developed a salt
resistant variety of rice sir.

Do you know about north India?
Yes sir.

Capital of Jammu and Kashmir, capital of Punjab, capital of Haryana, status of
Chandigarh?
All answered.

Why is it called Punjab?
Because five rivers flow sir.

What are they?
I tell all of them.

Does Jhelum flow through Punjab?
I think yes sir.

No.

Sorry sir.

Suppose you become health secretary and what will you do break the nexus
between the doctor’s pharmaceutical companies?
I tell about the unethical act of doctors and tell them that the onus of administering the
medicine resets on the pharmacy graduate holders and the dispensaries.

Member 4 takes over.

To tell about him. He is an old person whose language is barely understandable.
Tell me about bare foot doctors.

I tell about the history. Its value to the china health system.

Is it relevant in India?
I tell about the rural MBBS and its use. Few stats also quoted.

Tell me about CBI
.
I tell him.

Can CBI intervene without state government permission?
Yes if there is significant central government interest in it.

Are you aware of the recent Supreme Court amendment regarding that?
No sir.

Tell me about Muhammad bin Tuglaq.
tell about him as a ruler of misdirected energies. His miscalculated numismatic
experiment and the transfer of capital from Delhi to Devagiri fired back very badly.

Tell me about the dowry system and methods needed in this direction.
I told about the relevant law. Further said that women empowerment, awareness
generation, education are required to bring the number of cases under it.
Finally...
All are good and doing great.
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Quick Information about IES Officer !


Indian Engineering Services (IES/ES) constitute of engineers that work under the government of India to manage a large segment of public sector economy which constitutes of Railroads, Public works, Power, Telecommunications, etc.
A combined competitive examination is conducted by the Union Public Services Commission (UPSC) for recruitment to the Indian Engineering Services. The Examination constitutes of a written examination followed by an interview for personality test.
For detailed instructions about Application Procedure and Examination click on one of links in the left column.
The approximate number of vacancies, for the year 2011: 745
The recruitment of qualified candidates are made under the following categories:



Category – I Civil Engineering
(i) Indian Railway Service of Engineers
(ii) Indian Railway Stores Service
(iii) Central Engineering Service
(iv) Military Engineer Service (Building and Roads Cadre)
(v) Central Water Engineering
(vii) Assistant Executive Engineer
(viii) Survey of India Service

Category – I Mechanical Engineering
(i) Indian Railway Service of Mechanical Engineers
(ii) Indian Railway Stores Service
(iii) Central Water Engineering Service
(iv) Indian Ordnance Factories Service
(v) Indian Naval Armament Service
(vi) Assistant Executive Engineer (in Ministry of Defence)
(vii) Assistant Naval Store officer Grade I in Indian Navy
(viii) Central Electrical & Mechanical Engineering Service
(ix) Assistant Executive Engineer (in Boarder Roads Engineering Service)
(x) Mechanical Engineer (in Geological Survey of India)



Category – I Electrical Engineering
(i) Indian Railway Service of Electrical Engineers
(ii) Indian Railway Stores Service
(iii) Central Electrical & Mechanical Engineering Service
(iv) Indian Naval Armament Service
(v) Military Engineer Service
(vi) Assistant Executive Engineer (in Ministry of Defence)
(vii) Assistant Naval Store (in Indian Navy)



Category – I Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering
(i) Indian Railway Service of Signal Engineers
(ii) Indian Railway Stores Service
(iii) Indian Ordnance Factories Service
(iv) Indian Naval Armament Service
(v) Assistant Executive Engineer (in Ministry of Defence)
(vi) Engineer in Wireless Planning and Coordination Wing/Monitoring Organisation
(vii) Assistant Naval Stores officer (in Indian Navy)
(viii) Survey of India Service


Indian Engineering Services Examination - Eligibility Conditions 

(I) Nationality:
A candidate must be either:
(a) a citizen of India, or
(b) a subject of Nepal, or
(c) a subject of Bhutan, or
(d) a Tibetan refugee who came over to Indian before the 1st January, 1962 with the intention of permanently settling in India, or
(e) a person of Indian origin who has migrated from Pakistan, Burma, Sri Lanka or East African countries of Kenya, Uganda, the United Republic of Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi, Zaire and Ethiopia or from Vietnam with the intention of permanently settling in India.
Provided that a candidate belonging to categories (b), (c), (d) and (e) above shall be a person in whose favour a certificate of eligibility has been issued by the Government of India.
A candidate in whose case a certificate of eligibility is necessary, may be admitted to the examination but the offer of appointment may be given only after the necessary eligibility certificate has been issued by the Government of India.


(II) Age Limits: 
(a) A candidate for this examination must have attained the age of 21 years and must not have attained the age of 30 years on the 1st August, of the current year
(b) The upper age-limit of 30 years will be relaxable upto 35 years in the case of Government servants of the following categories, if they are employed in a Department/Office under the control of any of the authorities mentioned in column 1 below and apply for admission to the examination for all or any of the Service(s)/Posts mentioned in column 2, for which they are otherwise eligible.
(i) A candidate who holds substantively a permanent post in the particular Department/Office concerned. This relaxation will not be admissible to a probationer appointed against a permanent post in the Department/Office during the period of his probation.
(ii) A candidate who has been continuously in a temporary service on a regular basis in the particular Department/Office for at least 3 years on the 1st August, of current year.

Column 1Column 2
Railway DepartmentI.R.S.E.
I.R.S.M.E.
I.R.S.E.E.
I.R.S.S.E.
I.R.S.S.
Central Public Works DepartmentC.E.S.—Group ‘A’
C.E. & M.E.S., Group ‘A’
Engineer-in-Chief, Army HeadquartersM.E.S. Group A (IDSE B & R Cadre),M.E.S. Group A (IDSE—E. & M. Cadre)
Directorate General Ordnance FactoriesI.O.F.S. Group A
Central Water CommissionC.W.E. Service (Group A)
Central Electricity AuthorityC.P.E. Service (Group A)
Wireless Planning and Coordination Wing/Monitoring Organisation
Engineer (Group 'A') 
Indian NavyIndian Naval Armament Service,Assistant Naval Store Officer Grade I
Border Roads OrganisationBorder Roads Engineering Service.
Geological Survey of IndiaDrilling Engineer (Jr.) Gr. 'A'



NOTE—The period of apprenticeship if followed by appointment against a working posts on the Railways may be treated as Railway Service for the purpose of age concession.


(c) The upper age-limit prescribed above will be further relaxable—
(i) Upto a maximum of five years if a candidate belongs to a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe;
(ii) Upto a maximum of three years in the case of candidates belonging to Other Backward Classes who are eligible to avail of reservation applicable to such candidates.
(iii) Upto a maximum of five years if a candidate had ordinarily been domiciled in the State of Jammu & Kashmir during the period from the 1st January, 1980 to the 31st day of December, 1989.
(iv) Upto a maximum of three years in the case of Defence Service personnel disabled in operations during hostilities with any foreign country or in a disturbed area, and released as a consequence thereof;
(v) Upto a maximum of five years in the case of ex-servicemen including Commissioned Officers and ECOs/SSCOs who have rendered at least five years Military Service as on 1st August, and have been released (i) on completion of assignment (including those whose assignment is due to be completed within one year from 1st August, ) otherwise than by way of dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency, or (ii) on account of physical disability attributable to Military Service or (iii) on invalidment;
(vi) Upto a maximum of five years in the case of ECOs/SSCOs who have completed an initial period of assignment of five years of Military Services as on 1st August, and whose assignment has been extended beyond five years and in whose case the Ministry of Defence issues a certificate that they can apply for civil employment and they will be released on three months notice on selection from the date of receipt of offer of appointment.
(vii) Upto a maximum of 10 years in the case of blind, deaf-mute and Orthopaedically handicapped persons.
N.B.—The candidature of a person who is admitted to the examination under the age concession mentioned in Para 3(II)(b) above shall be cancelled if, after submitting his application he resigns from service or his services are terminated by his department/office either before or after taking the examination. He will, however, continue to be eligible if he is retrenched from the Service or post after submitting his application. A candidate who after submitting his application to the department is transferred to other department/office will be eligible to compete under departmental age concession  provided his application has been forwarded by his parent department.


SAVE AS PROVIDED ABOVE THE AGE LIMITS PRESCRIBED CAN IN NO CASE BE RELAXED.
The date of birth accepted by the Commission is that entered in the Matriculation or Secondary School Leaving Certificate or in a certificate recognised by an Indian University as equivalent to matriculation or in an extract from a Register of matriculates maintained by a University, which extract must be certified by the proper authority of the University or in the Higher Secondary or an equivalent examination certificate. These certificates are required to be submitted along with the detailed applications which will be required to be submitted by the candidates who qualify on the result of the written part of the examination.
No other document relating to age like horoscopes, affidavits, birth extracts from Municipal Corporation, service records and the like will be accepted.
The expression Matriculation/Secondary Examination Certificate in this part of the instruction includes the alternative certificates mentioned above.


NOTE 1:- CANDIDATES SHOULD NOTE THAT ONLY THE DATE OF BIRTH AS RECORDED IN THE MATRICULATION/SECONDARY EXAMINATION CERTIFICATE OR AN EQUIVALENT CERTIFICATE ON THE DATE OF SUBMISSION OF APPLICATION WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE COMMISSION AND NO SUBSEQUENT REQUEST FOR ITS CHANGE WILL BE CONSIDERED OR GRANTED.
NOTE 2:- CANDIDATES SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT ONCE A DATE OF BIRTH HAS BEEN CLAIMED BY THE THEM AND ENTERED IN THE RECORDS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADMISSION TO AN EXAMINATION, NO CHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED SUBSEQUENTLY (OR AT ANY OTHER EXAMINATION OF THE COMMISSION) ON ANY GROUNDS WHATSOEVER.
NOTE 3. CANDIDATES SHOULD EXERCISE DUE CARE WHILE ENTERING THEIR DATE OF BIRTH IN COLUMN 8 OF THE APPLICATION FORM. IF ON VERIFICATION AT ANY SUBSEQUENT STAGE, ANY VARIATION IS FOUND IN THEIR DATE OF BIRTH FROM THE ONE ENTERED IN THEIR MATRICULATION OR EQUIVALENT EXAMINATION CERTIFICATE, DISCIPLINARY ACTION WILL BE TAKEN AGAINST THEM BY THE COMMISSION UNDER THE RULES.


(III) Minimum Educational Qualification: 
For admission to the examination, a candidate must have—
(a) obtained a degree in Engineering from a University incorporated by an Act of the Central or State Legislature in India or other Educational Institutions established by an Act of Parliament or declared to be deemed as Universities under Section 3 of the University Grants Commission Act, 1956; or
(b) passed Section A and B of the Institution Examinations of the Institution of Engineers (India); or
(c) obtained a degree/diploma in Engineering from such foreign University/College/Institution and under such conditions as may be recognised by the Government for the purpose from time to time, or
(d) passed Graduate Membership Examination of the Institute of Electronics and Telecommunication Engineers (India); or
(e) passed Associate Membership Examination Parts II and III/Sections A and B of the Aeronautical Society of India; or
(f) passed Graduate Membership Examination of the Institution of Electronics and Radio Engineers, London held after November, 1959.
Provided that a candidate for the post of Indian Naval Armament Service (Electronics Engineering Posts and Engineer Group 'A' in Wireless Planning and Coordination Wing/Monitoring Organisation) may possess any of the above qualifications or the qualification mentioned below namely:-
M.Sc. degree or its equivalent with Wireless Communication, Electronics, Radio Physics or Radio Engineering as a special subject.
NOTE-1—A candidate who has appeared at an examination the passing of which would render him educationally qualified for this examination, but has not been informed of the result, may apply for admission to the examination. A candidate who intends to appear at such a qualifying examination may also apply. Such candidates will be admitted to the examination, if otherwise eligible, but their admission would be deemed to be provisional and subject to cancellation, if they do not produce proof of having passed the requisite qualifying examination alongwith the detailed applications which will be required to be submitted by the candidates who qualify on the result of written part of the examination.
NOTE-2—In exceptional cases, the Commission may treat a candidate, who has not any of the qualifications prescribed in this rule, as educationally qualified provided that he has passed examinations conducted by other institutions the standard of which in the opinion of the Commission justifies his admission to the examination.
NOTE-3—A candidate who is otherwise qualified but who has taken a degree from a foreign University which is not recognised by Government, may also apply to the Commission and may be admitted to the examination at the discretion of the Commission.


(iv) Physical standards
Candidates must be physically fit according to physical standards for admission to Engineering Services Examination, as per guidelines given in the rules for the Engineering Services Examination
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